Letter: Roundabout coverage sounds like ADOT propaganda

Editor:

In response to your recent coverage and editorial about the roundabouts on AZ 260, most of your information sounds like ADOT trying to sell roundabouts to the public.

If you have ever lived where roundabouts are frequently installed and a problem, you would not agree with the propaganda that ADOT is selling.

The reason most people wanted four lanes between Camp Verde and Cottonwood was to ease the constant congestion on the highway caused by the slow drivers and big-rig trucks.

All the roundabouts will do is increase that congestion, cause more accidents to happen and increase the number of road rage cases and accidents.

I guarantee you that the average speed between Cottonwood and Camp Verde will drop to less than the present posted speeds of 55 MPH. I will be greatly surprised if the average speed is higher than 35 MPH. Especially since they will have seven roundabouts less than 1 mile apart. Drivers will just about get up to speed when they will have to slow down or stop for the next roundabout or they will try to race other cars to get there first.

What should have been designed and built for the portion of Hwy 260 between Camp Verde and Cottonwood is the same type of highway that was built for the improvements to Highway 89A between Cottonwood and Sedona a couple of years ago. They have dedicated turn lanes for all the various turn-offs that are on the highway.

If all the roundabouts planned by ADOT are the same size as the one at HWY 260 and I-17 there will be accidents involving big-rig trucks and other vehicles. You can already see the time marks on the highway and roundabout shoulders where big-rig and large trucks cut the shoulder of the roundabout because it is too small for them to use.

That plus you have to be careful if someone is making a U turn and decides to go to Burger King or Industrial Blvd. and cuts you off when he pulls right in front of you.

I have personally witnessed a couple of close calls while traveling through it.

Brian B Coley

Camp Verde

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ScottRAB 1 year ago

Where to begin? Modern roundabouts are the safest form of intersection in the world - the intersection type with the lowest risk of fatal or serious injury crashes - (much more so than comparable signals). Visit the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety for modern roundabout FAQs and safety facts. Modern roundabouts, and the pedestrian refuge islands approaching them, are two of nine proven safety measures identified by the FHWA. https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/intersection/innovative/roundabouts/

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ScottRAB 1 year ago

Modern roundabouts are designed for trucks, large vehicles, and trailer towing vehicles by including the center flat area around the circle. It’s not a sidewalk, it’s called a truck apron, and it’s for trucks to begin a sharp right or end a left or U-turn on. But they should obey the warning speed and know their vehicle.

Roundabout Trucks Videos: STAA, Porterville, CA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zPsU... FHWA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nVzsC2fOQw
Washington County, WI: http://tinyurl.com/trucksRABwi U-turn: http://tinyurl.com/rabtruckuturn
Windsor-Essex Parkway, Canada: http://tinyurl.com/windsoressexRAB WSDOT simulation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI0L2...

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ScottRAB 1 year ago

Modern, slow and go, roundabout intersections have less daily delay than a stop light or stop sign, especially the other 20 hours a day people aren’t driving to or from work (it’s the #2 reason they’re built). Average daily delay at a signal is around 12 seconds per car. At a modern roundabout average delay is less than five seconds. Signals take an hour of demand and restrict it to a half hour, at best only half the traffic gets to go at any one time. At a modern roundabout drivers entering from different directions can all enter at the same time. Don’t try that with a signalized intersection.

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MrMaccabees 1 year ago

Shouldn't the Editor limit responses by involved parties on these sort of articles? Why is Scott Ritchie of RTE (a roundabout engineer http://www.roundabouts.us/ email: scott@roundabouts.us phone: 928-284-0366) being given a bully pulpit? Isn't this sort of thing discussed in Journalism 101?!

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ScottRAB 1 year ago

Maybe because I am not Scott Ritchie. I am Scott Batson.

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